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Do I need to remove my old shingle or can I roof over the top?

04/20/2011

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When home or building owners are in the market for a new roof, one of the first questions they ask is “Do I need to tear off my old roof, or can I just roof over it?”  It can be a difficult question to answer because while it is possible to roof over a single existing layer of shingles, it is always a better idea to tear the old shingles off and install a completely new roof.  

Up until the year 2000, it was legal to install up to 3 layers of shingles on a single roof.  However, Utah’s building codes changed, and now the building codes allow only two roofing layers on a single roof.  

It is easily assumed that the more layers you have on a roof, the more protection you have, but that is not exactly true.  It is always better to tear off the entire roof: the underlayment, the shingles, and the flashings.  

Even if your current shingles are ideal for installing a second layer, the new shingles will not line up to your current shingles.  It creates an apron, essentially preventing the new shingles from sealing well.  This can result in shingles blowing off easily in lower winds.  Also, if you look at the roof from the ground, it will be visible that the shingles do not line up.  

You may choose that you would still like to roof over your existing shingles to save money.  It costs about half the price to roof over existing shingles.  However, there are several requirements your roof should meet to make this decision viable.  

First, has your roof been leaking?  Chances are that the underlayment (a waterproof material installed just under your shingles) is leaking.  The underlayment is very important because it can keep water out even when your shingles don’t.  If your roof is leaking, you should definitely tear off your existing roof and install a new one with the underlayment done correctly.

Another factor is the condition of your current shingles.  Are they laying flat on your roof?  If the shingles are curling or bumpy, it would be difficult for the new shingles to lay down properly and thereby the sealer strip (a strip of tar that seals the shingles down) will not hold the shingles together in windy conditions.  When this happens, the shingles will be prone to blowing off in patches with moderate winds, year after year.  This could result in the roof’s life being greatly diminished.

In the event you have two layers, it is important to avoid the temptation to take off the top layer and go over the bottom layer.  Aside from the fact that this is against Utah's Uniform Building Code, you will not have a smooth surface to go over with the top layer.  If you can imagine all the nails from the top layer that are left behind, you can envision the problems that occur when nails are pounded down, or pulled.  Either way, the asphalt shingles in the bottom layer get pretty chewed up!

When a new roof is put on any structure, it is best to replace the flashings as well.  Flashings help the shingles seal to the pipes, walls and other roof penetrations in areas that leak most often.  During a re-roof it is common for the roofing contractor to seal to the old flashings.  Sometimes, these old flashings are not as sound as new ones would be, and they tear off, causing problems for the building owner.  

Simply put, the best option when reroofing, is to remove the first layer and start over.  The pro's are:

  1. The roof deck (usually plywood or 1x slats) can be inspected for damaged wood that needs to be replaced for strength as well as giving the new roof system's nails plenty of holding power.
  2. You can make sure the underlayment is done correctly, giving the roof a longer life.  
  3. The shingles will seal down correctly, allowing the sealer strip to hold the shingles together during winds up to 110 miles per hour.

Even if your roof meets all of these requirements, a tear off and re-roof will always have better and longer lasting results.  What seems like a lot of extra money spent on a re-roof will actually end up saving you even more money in the long run.  Brady Roofing is a professional roofing company that will ensure your roof is installed correctly, resulting in less work for you as the building or home owner.  Contact us today for a free estimate, or visit our website at www.bradyroofing.net for more information.  

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How to Locate a Leak on Your Roof

08/16/2010

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Why is my roof is leaking?  What do I do if I find a leak?  How can I locate a leak on my roof?  Finding a leak in your home can cause frustration and anxiety.  However, there is a simple step by step process that will help you know what to do when you find a leak, how to locate it’s source, and prevent further damage.  

Is My Roof Leaking?
It is important to keep in mind that if you find a sign of water damage in your ceiling or wall, it does not necessarily mean that your roof is leaking.  The problem could also be the result of leaky plumbing or even condensation.  If you find water damage on a ceiling that is not directly below the roof, you may want to consider these other possibilities as causing the leak.  

Even if you find sign of water damage in your attic, these signs may not equate to a current leak.  For example, if your house is 50 years old, it would have had two or three layers of roofing, and the leak could have occurred anywhere during the life of either roof.  A water stain on the roof’s rafters is often what sets off an alarm with the building or home owner, but is far from conclusive evidence of an existing leak.  

To determine if your roof is leaking, check the water damage during a rain storm or while snow is melting on your roof.  If the damage shows up within 5 hours of recent rain or snow activity, it is probably the result of a roof leak.  If the damage occurs outside of this 5 hour range, you may want to have the area checked by a plumber.

With any leak, water can build up and put a heavy amount of weight on your ceiling.  If you see a bulge in the sheet rock or paint of the affected area, you will want to drain the water to prevent the sheet rock from collapsing and causing more damage to your home.  Simply put a bucket under the affected area and poke a hole in the sheet rock with a 16 penny nail to drain the water.  

How to Locate a Leak
Once you are confident that your roof is leaking, you can call a certified roofing contractor to locate and repair the leak.  If you would like to find the source of the leak yourself, we have provided a step by step guide.

Throughout this process, remember that water runs downhill.  If moisture penetrates the roof, it sometimes travels down and even diagonally in both directions before finding it’s way through the underlayment.  Once through the underlayment, it needs to find a seam in the roofs sheathing.  Then, the water will either drop to the ceiling’s insulation or travel down a rafter.  Once the moisture is on the ceiling, it will usually soak up some insulation before finding it’s way to the sheet rock or plaster ceiling material.  About 90% of the time, the leak will manifest itself in a joint in the sheet rock.

To find a leak:
  1. Determine how many roof layers is on your home.  If your pitched roof has only one layer, it is much easier to find the source of the leak.  
  2. Locate the area where the leak is manifesting itself inside your home.
  3. Transfer this area up to the roof.  Is it coming through a penetration such as a pipe, ventilation, swamp cooler, chimney, or skylight?  The majority of roof leaks come in around penetrations.  Look within 5 feet uphill of the affected area, though it can be as far as 10.
  4. If you locate a penetration within this area, look for problems with the flashing.  These are usually very simple repairs.
  5. If there are no penetrations within this area, look for blown off shingles, torn shingles, and nails coming through.  Also, pay close attention to valleys, as these areas tend to leak as well.  

If you are able to locate a leak in the flashing, you may be able to repair this yourself if you have some knowledge in roofing and can secure the necessary materials.  More complicated leaks should be repaired by experienced professionals.  Brady Roofing is able to both locate leaks and effectively repair them.  We install a large majority of roofing products.  We also offer free estimates.  For more information, contact us today.  
 
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Snow Retention Systems: Do You Need One?

07/13/2010

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Snow Retention Systems: Does Your Roof Need One?

When considering whether to install a snow retention system on your roof, you may first want to consider what type of roof you have.  Will your roof allow snow to slide?  In places with heavy snows, like areas in Utah, it is common for snow to slide from certain types of  roof systems causing heavy ice and snow build up to sit in gutters, which causes damage over time.  If you have a metal, tile, slate or Membrane roof with a pitch of 1/12 or greater, snow may slide off and cause this problem.  Gutters will either hold the heavy snow, or they will fall, creating costly repairs.  

More often than not, when a customer wants a metal roof, they are excited about the idea of snow sliding off.  But after the first few snow storms, these customers see the down side to snow sliding off and piling up on the ground.  There are four main downsides to this occurrence:  
  1. The first is safety.  People commonly under estimate the weight of a couple cubic yards of snow.  And if it is mixed with ice at the eaves as is usually the case, it can cause serious injury and even death if it lands on someone.  
  2. The second is if snow that is fluffy while on the roof, falls ten feet and lands on the ground, it packs in and becomes very hard and dense.  It takes a steel shovel and even a pick in some cases to get it moved off a drive or walk way.  
  3. The obstacle that snow sliding off a metal roof can cause is damage to common roof penetrations and gutter systems.  Plumbing and Heating ventilation pipes can bend over from the sliding snow.  The weight of snow will drop gutter systems.
  4. The fourth is the thunderous sound it makes when it lands, and damaged landscape and railings that go with it.  I had a customer tell me she thought her house was collapsing as the 300 lb block of snow fell from the roof onto her deck.  This happened at night so you can imagine the adrenaline she woke up with!  We have a cabin that we let the snow slide off of and it damaged a log railing system, requiring a roof peppered with snow retention clips just to keep the snow from landing on the railings.
To prevent this, you can simply put snow retention clips on your pitched roof above the gutter and throughout the problem area to keep snow on the roof and to keep it from sliding.  For example, you may want more retention clips in areas above a patio, walk way, or driveway to prevent large amounts of snow from falling and damaging the property or even worse, causing serious injury to pedestrians below.  It can be safer for your roof, your gutters, and the area around your home if your snow is allowed to thaw instead of evacuate your roof by avalanche.  There are 3 main types of snow retention systems for metal and tile roofs:
  • Snow Fences
  • Snow Brackets
  • Snow Clamps
All three choices are effective at keeping snow on your roof.  However, snow fences are probably the best choice for a metal panel roof.  For a standing seam metal roof, snow clamps are usually the recommended choice.  For tile or slate roofing systems, you may want to choose snow brackets as a retention system.

For TPO roofs, even with a low slope of 1/12, it is recommended to install a snow retention system in areas with moderate to heavy snowfall.  If the snow is allowed to flow with the slope of the roof, it could build up in one area, causing damage to your roof and drainage system.  However, snow clips and fences are not usually as effective because TPO membrane is a flat roof system.  This means that, without proper precautions, the moisture could sit around the fasteners that hold the snow fences on and cause leaks.  The best course of action in this situation is to install clad metal on the TPO roof to hold the snow.  Brady Roofing is able to fabricate this metal in shop, as well as install and seal it properly on your TPO roof.  

My advice when designing building a roof system is simply this:  Check with building code requirements in your area to find out the snow load, have the roof design reviewed by a residential structural engineer, then keep the snow on the roof using the proper method.  Shingled roofs generally don’t have an issue with snow sliding.  If you are looking at a smooth surface roof system, and you have a visible slope, you will want to consult with a roofing contractor to see the best method for keeping the snow on the roof.  


For more information on snow retention systems, or for a free estimate, contact us today.  
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Prevent Ice Dams on Your Roof

06/11/2010

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It may be the beginning of summer, but we can be sure that winter will come again.  If you plan well for your roof now, you will be prepared for the worst winters Utah can bring you.  That's why we need to be aware of the issue of ice dams in climates like Utah's while we install our roofs.  An Ice dam is formed when heat from inside a home or attic warms the roof and melts the snow on it.  This melted snow runs towards the cooler eaves and gutters, where it refreezes.  This process creates ice dams.  The result of these dams is water backing up under the roof shingles or behind fascia boards where it can cause damage to your home, both inside and out.  All shingle manufacturers exclude from warranty coverage leaks that are caused by water backing up behind these ice dams.   

The good news is, in most situations, ice dams are easily reduced if you take a few simple steps.  There are three ways to protect your home against ice dams: insulation, ventilation, and waterproofing shingle underlayment.  All three of these steps are vital to protecting your home.  Insulation minimizes heat loss from your home's living area, reducing the hot air which reaches your attic.  This is important to keep you warm throughout the winter, as well as to keep your roof cool.  Ventilation removes the heat from underneath your roof and helps to keep it evenly cool to prevent the freezing and thawing process.  Finally, waterproofing shingle underlayment can be installed on your roof before the shingles are applied.  This protects your roof in the case that an ice dam were to form.   

If you already have an existing roof without any major problems, you may still want to protect against ice dams.  You cannot install waterproof shingle underlayment on existing roofs without removing the shingles first or building a new addition.  However, it is possible to increase your insulation R-value, or level of thermal resistance, in your attic.  Also, it is typically simple to add ventilation to your attic at any time.   

Insulation is a great place to start when protecting your home from excessive ice dams.  If your home was built before 1980, you will most likely need to add more attic insulation.  The amount of insulation your house should have will vary on depending where you live, how your home was built and other factors, including your lifestyle.  In northern Utah, you should have a ceiling R-value of R-49, a wall R-value of R-19 and a floor R-value of R-25.  One inch of insulation can have an R-value of anything from 3.8-4.2, depending on the material.   

Ventilation is important to your home both in the winter and the summer.  Any heat that is lost from your home will be drawn out of your attic through your ventilation, keeping your roof deck cool.  In the winter, this prevents ice dams.  Attic ventilation can also allow any moisture from bathing, cooking and laundry to escape rather than sit and mold or rot your ceilings.  There are two common types of attic ventilation: a mechanical ventilation system and a natural ventilation system.  A power ventilator is an electric fan installed at the roof or gable that runs by a thermostat to ensure the roof is the proper temperature.  A natural ventilation system consists of simple vent or covered openings in your attic.  These are typically installed into your roof.   

If you are building a new home, or re-roofing your current home, it is essential to install waterproof shingle underlayment.  This underlayment is completely resistant to water and is an important step in defending your home against leaks and ice dams.  Shingle underlayment does not prevent ice dams, so it should be accompanied by taking the above steps.  However, installing an underlayment will prevent any backed up water from entering and damaging your home.  Shingle underlayment is installed differently for every situation, depending on the amount of snow and ice that will be on the roof, and the amount of attic space there is to allow air circulation (some underlayments don't breathe and can cause condensation when there is no air circulation - see previous blog on ventilation).  Generally, it is a good ideal to have it applied under flashing, at roof penetrations, areas where pitches change, in valleys, around chimneys, and along the eaves of the home.  You should consider building codes in your area when determining how much ice shield should be installed to prevent the ice at the eaves from backing up and coming in at your exterior walls.   

It is important to note that some situations call for a product called heat tape (sometimes called electrical heat coil).  Areas where this is most prevalent are at the bottom of valleys where it butts into a wall or chimney and does not flow freely off the roof.  This heat tape is effective in resolving ice damming issues, but is costly to operate.  It is best to consult with a roofing contractor when assessing areas that may require special consideration. 

Remember, proper planning can avoid a whole lot of pain later on when the roofing project or repair is completed!   Brady Roofing specializes is proper ventilation and waterproofing your roof for all climates.  If you would like a roof estimate, you can request a free estimate here. 
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Is Your Roof Leaking? Or is it Just High Humidity?

04/09/2010

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Over the last few months, one of our clients has called us several times to fix various leaks in his 12 year old pitched roof installed by another roofing contractor.  He had originally had a tar and gravel flat roof.  He had his roofing contractor convert it to a 4/12 pitched roof, leaving the tar and gravel roof on underneath.  He called us when, after only 12 years, his shingled roof was leaking in various places.  When I got on the roof I noted the poor workmanship of his roof and shingles.  We did several repairs and ended up replacing the entire roof, installing new shingles, an ice shield, synthetic felt and new flashing.  It was a 30 year system and I was confident he wouldn't have any future leaks in his roof.  

Last night, I had a bizarre experience as I received yet another phone call from him reporting a leak in one of the same places the roof had leaked before.  I couldn't figure out how a brand new roof could be leaking in the same spot.  I called one of my employees and we went to check it out around 5:30.  We inspected the entire roof and could not find any place that could be leaking.  Because it was a converted flat roof, there was no attic access.  Without any other options, I was forced to tear of a portion of the new roof and cut away the plywood underneath to gain access to the cavity between the flat roof and the pitched roof.  As I dropped down into the cavity, I was confident there was no leak in the pitched roof we had recently installed.  The tar and gravel roof was bone-dry and coated with a layer of dust.  

Because the tar and gravel roof was no longer needed, we began tearing the flat roof off to find the problem.  When we had gotten down to the plywood under the tar and gravel, I found that the wood was completely saturated.  Somehow, high humidity levels there had caused this house to leak from the inside out.  

After talking to the owner of the house, I learned they kept a humidifier hooked to their furnace, which was located directly under the area of the leak.  This humidifier was on during the winter.  Every time that it rained or snowed outside, creating a high humidity, that humidity was magnified inside, creating an overall humidity that is higher than average.  This humidity caused condensation to form on the underside of the tar and gravel roof just as it would form on the underside of a pot's lid when water boils.  When the condensation became heavy enough, it would drip through the ceiling, appearing as if there were a leak.  In reality, that water came from the inside of the house.  

When a building has high humidity, a vapor barrier such as Visqeen should be installed on the warm side of the insulation.  In this case, the vapor barrier was the actual tar and gravel roof, and consequently was installed on the cool side of the insulation, forcing the condensation to travel through the ceiling, insulation, and plywood before reaching the barrier. To fix this issue, we cut out the roof sheeting from the tar and gravel in the effected area so that it could breathe.  As we cut it off, a burst of hot, humid air hit us in the face.  I had never seen anything like this, it was simply amazing.  Our client is going to replace the damaged material in this area.  

To avoid this issue in a typical home, simply keep your humidifier turned off in the winter, as it is not necessary.  You may own a home or building that naturally has unusually high level of humidity.  This would usually come from an indoor swimming pool or fountain.  In this case, be sure you have an architect and a roofing contractor that are familiar with building for this environment.  A large number of roofing contractors are unaware of these procedures and cautions.  To my knowledge, only 5 or 6 roofing contractors in the salt lake valley are experienced in installing a roof for this type of environment.  Brady Roofing is experienced in this area.  We recently installed a roof for a Hampton Inn with a similarly humid environment.  To contact Brady Roofing for a free estimate, contact us here.  
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Prevent TPO Leaks Caused by Heating and Cooling Technicians

03/16/2010

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Q)  What precautions do Heating and Cooling technicians need to take when working on a roof?

A)  When we have completed a TPO membrane roof, we inspect it for voids in the seams and for punctures.  We usually don’t find anything during these inspections (called probing) but it is a helpful assurance against a leak.

Often we get a call from a building owner four months to several years after the roof has been completed and they report a sudden leak in the roof.  This is usually due to a puncture from someone on the roof.  It does take a lot of pressure to make a hole in a roof, unless one is dealing with sharp tools or edges of panels from an HVAC unit or swamp cooler.  Technician awareness when working on roof top units is simple and helps prevent leaks.

One example of a leak in a TPO membrane roof caused from a rooftop A/C unit installation occurred about two years ago.  We installed a nice white, energy efficient TPO membrane roof on a condominium complex in Saint George in 2004.  In 2008 I got a call from the management company reporting a leak in one of the units.  Amid my suspicion, I took a trip down to investigate the problem.  When I got there, I saw that a new A/C unit had been installed over this condo unit.  I took some membrane cleaner and started wiping the membrane clean.  It didn’t take long to find several holes in the membrane caused by fragments of hot solder from the installation process. 
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The best precaution against this is for the HVAC technician to place a 3’ x 3’ piece of OSB or plywood down under the welding area.  This will prevent any extremely hot fragments of solder from coming in contact with the membrane.
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Fortunately, the repair was simple.  I just heat welded a new peice of TPO over the area and their problems were solved. 
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That is one beautiful characteristic about this product.  It does not lose it's weld ability like PVC and EP Sheets do.  I was just on an extremely large food processing plant roof yesterday that was done about 15 years ago in an EP Sheet.  A general contractor just put two new exhaust units on the roof.  As we tried to weld new membrane flashing around these units, we found it had lost its weld ability.  We have found a solution that I won't go into now, but the fact is it couldn't be welded after this time frame like a TPO membrane could.

It made me all the more comfortable installing roofs for our customers!
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